And basically, Michael, I guess you edited the book and put it together, right? I’ll tell that story, but the fact of the matter is, courage really is more in evidence when people have a realistic appraisal of how dangerous the moment is. In 1978, Bond played himself in the miniseries King. PH: Well, he was the president of the center at the time, and a lot of the donors were Jewish, and so it did create a lot of controversy within that donor group, for years.

One is that he thought kids picking up litter was problematic because of the pressing issues facing black communities. PH: Well, also, John got the white vote because people in Atlanta remembered what they considered to be Julian’s treasonous statement against the war back in 1965. But it means that you’re in the black community, and you’re somebody who has indicated to other people in that community that you care more about the community than about your own career, your own self. And you know, to be the first black member, I think, of the Georgia Senate — wasn’t he the first? And it is interesting because I found it one of the most fascinating, because I learned so much from it. He was a great artist, a great athlete, a great opera singer, great football player, great, great, great.

And the — and then, you know, talked about immorality and the unjustness of the war. After the influence of Julian, who was, you know, one of the first national black leaders to support gay rights and say that gay rights are civil rights. , and, later in life, a champion for gay rights. In 1960, Julian Bond is actually arrested when he takes an interracial group — or a black, sorry, a black group to the City Hall cafeteria there in Atlanta, and is arrested for creating a disturbance. So let me take that to its next stage. But the politics, the racism there, the policing was really quite brutal then. Kevin Cooper: Is California About to Execute an Innocent Man? RS: In your book it says unanimously. I believe the figure was 18% or something. But what — you make it sound like, you know, OK, here’s this historic black college, and let’s do what they’re doing in Greensboro. [48][49] Bond was a strong critic of policies that contribute to anthropogenic climate change and was amongst a group of protesters arrested at the White House for civil disobedience in opposition to the Keystone XL pipeline in February 2013. Lisa Bonet, actress Brian Kest (SO) Ed Bradley, CBS newsman Priscilla Coolidge.

And I think Pam has a story that’s associated with “Race Man,” and the bench that recently was installed in Julian’s, his memory. RS: Yeah. It's simple. Bond specifically targeted Attorney General John Ashcroft, who had opposed affirmative action, and Interior Secretary Gale Norton, who defended the Confederacy in a 1996 speech on states' rights. PAMELA HOROWITZ: Yes, but let me say first that, you know, this is Mike’s book; he is the editor. And you know, was even able to get them involved in some politics. And even, I wrote something about it, even when I dragged him out to the Perry Homes project.

And even though he won his election to the House of Representatives in Georgia, and later he would win into the Senate in the state of Georgia, they did not allow him to take his seat. And so Bond recognizes the strength of the alliance between the black communities and Jewish communities.

He called Tea Party members "a group of people who are admittedly racist, who are overtly political, who've tried as best as they can to harm President Obama in every way they can". ML: If I could back up a little bit, so when he was seated, he was in the House of Representatives. PH: Yes, that’s absolutely true. So on that note, it can be done. And the link to Martin Luther King’s coming out against the war, which really took great courage, and he was attacked for it. But he has seen the destructive role that religion has played in his life and the lives of so many black folks. You know, he’s not like many of the other civil rights leaders. Chairman and Civil Rights Leader, Dies at 75", "Bond won't seek re-election as NAACP Chairman", "NAACP chooses successor to Chairman Julian Bond", "Black Voices - Black News, Entertainment, Style and Culture", "NAACP chair says 'gay rights are civil rights, "Civil Rights Group Divided Over Gay Marriage", "Activists arrested at White House protesting Keystone pipeline", "NAACP Chair: Tea Party Is 'Taliban Wing' Of American Politics", "Review of Julian Bond: Reflections from the Frontlines of the Civil Rights Movement", "U.S. civil rights leader Julian Bond dies at 75", "Civil Rights Activist Julian Bond Has Died at 75", "Victor Levin's new film features cameos from real New Yorkers", National Civil Rights Museum Freedom Award Winners, "NAACP chairman will speak at Commencement", http://www.citylights.com/book/?GCOI=87286100990690, Afro-Academic, Cultural, Technological and Scientific Olympics, Davis v. County School Board of Prince Edward County, John F. Kennedy's speech to the nation on Civil Rights, Chicago Freedom Movement/Chicago open housing movement, Green v. County School Board of New Kent County, Alabama Christian Movement for Human Rights, Council for United Civil Rights Leadership, Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC), Heart of Atlanta Motel, Inc. v. United States, List of lynching victims in the United States, Spring Mobilization Committee to End the War in Vietnam, Birmingham Civil Rights National Monument, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Julian_Bond&oldid=985787534, African-American state legislators in Georgia (U.S. state), Activists for African-American civil rights, African-American television personalities, Members of the Georgia House of Representatives, Wikipedia articles with BIBSYS identifiers, Wikipedia articles with SNAC-ID identifiers, Wikipedia articles with SUDOC identifiers, Wikipedia articles with WORLDCATID identifiers, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, 2002, he was a recipient of the National Freedom Award, from the. And as I say, I actually got to know him, you know, what, five, six years later after that. ML: Yes, right. A new book shows how the activist's positions on issues like the Vietnam War and environmental justice helped move civil rights leaders left. I think he found Carter shallow, I think he found him unsupportive in terms of civil rights, early on at least. And I found that a fascinating section in your book, what he wrote about that. [39], Bond became the first president of the Southern Poverty Law Center[40] in 1971. And what he was able to do, and I want to quote him, because it very much applies to the economic issues we’re facing now, and why we have a right-wing — yeah —. He married Pamela Sue Horowitz, an attorney, in 1990.

And yet this was a man who advanced the civil rights movement, in my mind, more than anybody else. But in reading the book I thought, wow, this book — the title of which is “Race Man: Selected Works,” by Julian Bond, from 1960-2015. But I do want to — -first of all, Bayard Rustin, who organized the March on Washington, was a pacifist. We learn how this movement moved from one period to another — -and also reversals, failures. “That was the impetus for SNCC to issue its anti-war statement,” she continues, “which was very strong, and criticized the United States for its treatment of black people around the world, but including the United States of America.”, Scheer makes the link to Martin Luther King, Jr.’s famous 1967 speech, “Beyond Vietnam,” in which he indicted his own country as “the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.”. ML: If you want to even push this even further, if you want to see Bond’s radicalism at the end of his life, look not only at his stances on LGBTQ rights and same-sex marriage, but look at that picture there’s a picture of him getting arrested for protesting at Keystone pipeline. And I think that’s a theme in your book. What do I say to his widow? And he was easily amused. And he was, in addition to a brilliant speaker and thinker, a very good writer. It was unseemly, it was horrible. That’s it for this edition. You know, he could move very easily in the streets, and he got elected; he got elected over and over again. But Julian Bond had the foresight to say, don’t make the poor people the ones that have to pay the price.

And so King says, “Well, why don’t you do something with us? And I want to thank our guests, the editor of this book, Michael G. Long, who has written, you can look him up; he’s written a number of very important books on a whole range of subjects.

MICHAEL G. LONG: Sure, I’ll take — I’ll start, Pamela, and then maybe you can jump in. And as one example, you’re right bringing up other issues.

[41] In 1998, Bond was selected as chairman of the NAACP. And this is certainly right at the top of the list. [33][34] Bond's estranged wife, Alice, who publicly accused him of using cocaine, later retracted her statements. The, you know, so-called respectable whites. ML: Yeah, if you want to talk about that, Pam knows a lot about Julian’s background.

And maybe Pam has something to add to this. RS: Yeah, and we’re going to end this, but I just want to say one of the things that struck me in your book, you have some wonderful pictures there. Bond’s wife, Pamela Sue Horowitz, revealed to The New York Times that her husband’s death was due to complications of vascular disease. And I think — I love that picture, because that just sums up, for me that sums up the radical dimension of his life. ... his wife Pamela Sue Horowitz told The New York Times. Former chairman of the NAACP and lifelong civil rights leader Julian Bond passed away Saturday, Aug. 15, in Fort Walton Beach, Florida, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) announced. And then the Supreme Court eventually backed him. RS: Pam, you’ve practiced before the Supreme Court, so you probably know this case better than anyone. But in 1965, when SNCC comes out with this statement, he supports it. And these guys were not just mentioning the war. All rights reserved. He says he supports it because it’s right; he also says he supports it because he’s a pacifist. And Pamela Horowitz, who is a lawyer who works with the Southern Poverty Law Center, very famous in Montgomery, and actually took a very important landmark case on gender discrimination having to do with female prison guards, and applies to the firemen and police and everything else, whether being a woman would disqualify them from a position; it’s a famous Title VII case. And that is what Martin Luther King was saying at the end of his life, before he was assassinated.

Still dogged by allegations of drug use, Bond resigned from the Georgia Senate the following year. ML: Yeah, Bond was clearly a big fan of the social welfare state; and I thought of him last night when I was listening to Bernie Sanders. So just take us to those first years, as described — and the book is a collection of writing by Julian Bond, who I happened to know quite well at different points. I mean, why would they even care about Palestinians or Vietnamese or anything? [51] Bond later added at the annual NAACP convention that year, that since Bush's election he had "had his picture taken with more black people than voted for him.

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