Now, this is something that I kind of *knew* happened, but until I began actively participating in the Legend of Korra (LoK) during its final two seasons, I never really saw. Just prior to that threatened to chuck Bolin into one of her reeducation camps when he suggested that they don’t capture city. Like her brother Zuko, she was raised in an abusive household.

And this was none-other than Azula, Zuko’s sister who served, in my opinion, as the primary antagonist for the series versus her father, who had more of an Emperor Palpatine presence.

But…time to discuss Kuvira’s pesky ol’ actions:eval(ez_write_tag([[300,250],'thefandomentals_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_5',601,'0','0'])); So there you have it! But boy was my first experience with it surprising: the character ‘Kuvira’, a dictator who in the Book 4 opener was already strong-arming regional leaders to cave into her demands and putting others in life-threatening situations unless they pledged loyalty to her. Lets see if i understand this, The Writer a.k.a DC powerhouse and one of the most powerful beings in fiction, is only Tier 0 because he sees beings such as The Presence, God, The Leviathan and Enlil as mere fiction? Aight anyone here that uses this wiki often and watches jojo. Here on The Fandomentals, we try to provide commentary not only about popular pieces of media, but also on fandom tendencies, as participating in fandoms is at times, a most mysterious endeavor. She’s actually a great character, designed to be an almost perfect foil for Korra. Last edited: Jan 11, 2015.

This is complicated, because while Suyin claims that Kuvira was “like a daughter” to her, she also talks about “nourishing her talents” and seeing her “rise through the ranks,” which is not the most maternal thing in the world, to say the least. Then she begins to “slip” during the last season; we see her becoming increasingly paranoid after Mai’s betrayal, and she also exhibits certain signs of psychosis (like imagining her mother appearing in her mirror). Kuvira is a powerful Earth/Metal Bender Katara is a powerful Water Bender. Officially, Azula was tasked with the job of locating her brother and bringing him back to the Fire Nation (as a prisoner). Unwittingly, Azula stepped on the trail and fell to the ground. And much like Toph is both. 06-07-2018, 03:44 PM #20. master of read. Smh. I think Azula can bypass Kuvira's metal bending with lightning. He may or may not be able to beat goku cuz u know goku can come back to life. And the calcs they made just contradict their previous ones that literally say creating a storm is like mountain level Max, and all might did that while not only heavily weakened but he forced himself to go back in that form despite his limit of time being up already. in fandom conversations. VS Battles Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. What does it mean by Kuvira having 3 meteors to bend?

We tend to see this manifest in fanfic and fanart.

Sadly, though perhaps painfully realistically, she was turned into a secondary abuser at the hands of her father. JavaScript is disabled. This is when members of a fandom take a character who is, by all accounts, not very nice (and normally an antagonist), and downplays their flaws, painting them as a victim and/or object of desire. Comic Azula is faster and will quickly put Kuvira in a defensive position.

If she can extinguish her lightning with water, she's got power. I do know all about that razor’s edge between understanding motivations and excusing actions better than I like to admit.eval(ez_write_tag([[300,250],'thefandomentals_com-box-4','ezslot_4',197,'0','0'])); So no, instead what I’d like to do is describe Azula and Kuvira’s attributes and let you decide who wore their leather pants better? Where Azula was a soldier for the Fire Nation who was trying to take over the entire world because they believed themselves superior, Kuvira was a military figure in the Earth Kingdom during a time when it was descending into political chaos as the result of the Earth Queen’s assassination. Draco Malfoy is a lil’ shit, but stick him in some hot pants and suddenly he’s adorbs. Refused to exchange hostages to get Mai’s baby brother back (she kinda had a point there, tbh). Join Date Apr 2014 Posts 34,408.

Also characters like All might far surpass gigantomachia who casually vaporizes a mountain. Refused to step down from her post after the coronation of Prince Wu (I guess “King Wu,” but literally no one recognized this ever), instead declaring herself the Emperor of the Earth Kingdom and telling the world leaders who appointed her that if they tried to interfere with “internal Earth Kingdom” matters then they would be crushed. , to say the least.

Two perfect cinnamon rolls.

It's not really said so anywhere. Are you referring to the ATLA episode where Sokka's sword is made of meteorite? Also Suyin’s not the most objective person in the world. AFO literally destroys and island and prime all might is casually superior than any of the strongest ppl in the series rn. Is “justification” the right word? Ooooh I like this question! When Zuko and Azula finally face each other in the finale, there’s no “take-down” in the traditional sense. Marched an army to the city of Zaofu (Suyin’s city, shockingly) and then manipulated the situation to where she could pretend. He also cant defeatomnipotents. Azula faced Toph as a child, the metal bending Toph displayed was far inferior to even the most casual metal benders in Legend of Korra, let alone Kuvira who was able to fight off both of Toph's daughters (both of whom displayed far better metal bending than Toph ever did when Azula fought her. Threatened her friend Ty Lee’s life by sabotaging her circus act (having the circus master light the safety net on fire and releasing every animal onto the stage while Ty Lee was balancing on the high wire) until her friend agreed to join her group. The Elder Scrolls metaphysics & philosophy. Azula is overglorified much like Kuvira was overhyped. Tier 1-A Tournament Round 2, Final Match Results! The arena gives a lot of stuff for Kuvira to work with, and Kuvira isn't going to be astonished by lightning bending, while Azula has never fought a metalbender in combat (Toph doesn't count since she didn't actually metalbend to fight Azula) in the show. Can Yogori Takatou Really Beat Every Anime Verse? Then him and Bakugo split apart an entire storm that was literally going to destroy the island.

I’m not gonna shit on the wiki cuz I use it. I called Azula a “challenging” antagonist, but that’s not to say that Kuvira is a literary breeze. Developed the “super weapon,” which she then installed onto a giant walking robot that she marched, along with her army, to capture Republic City because it was on land that had belonged to the Earth Kingdom 70 years ago. We are shown her inability to socialize with others her age, and it’s something that seems to upset her on some level, or at least enough for her to ask Ty Lee’s advice on how to flirt. Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs CCC Gilgamesh! I guess what I’m trying to say is that Kuvira’s orphan-status was something that stayed with her, to the point where Korra cited it as one of the guiding reasons for her behavior, though to be perfectly honest, this always made more sense to me for Korra’s character than for Kuvira’s, since Book 4 spent the entire time developing the relationship between Kuvira and Suyin and framing that as Kuvira’s motivation for her actions in Zaofu. The mood instead is very “how did it come to this?”. Also Suyin’s not the most objective person in the world. But…time to discuss Kuvira’s pesky ol’ actions: Established a chain of “reeducation” camps (aka labor camps) for dissenters in her unified states (and no I won’t hear that this wasn’t confirmed; they didn’t script Baatar Jr. to say the words “hard truths, Bolin” just for kicks). For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. After thinking about the concept of shipping wars, I got to thinking about another particular habit of Highly Effective Fangirls (trademark pending). Almost blew up her fiancé because that also meant she would have successfully murdered the Avatar, the leader of the Air Nation, and Suyin. This is when members of a fandom take a character who is, by all accounts, not very nice (and normally an antagonist), and downplays their flaws, painting them as a victim and/or object of desire. Gave bandits the “option” of joining her by tying them to railroad tracks and refusing to free them otherwise. Plus he cant beat the Jojo Verse cuz some of them can freeze time. Or Does She Stomp Every Verse? Now, the point of this article is not at all to shame anybody for stanning either of these characters, nor for rationalizing away some of their more unsavory behavior. Suspended a scientist outside of a moving train car by a metal collar, choking him and threatening to drop him when he said that he had no desire to develop a super weapon out of a project that he thought was going to be about finding a source of clean energy. As I got further into this fandom, I soon discovered that another character from LoK’s predecessor, Avatar: The Last Airbender (AtLA) was also frequently leather pantsed. if Sozins comet fire bending cannot melt steel then Azulas standard Firebending won't do it either.

This is directly connected to her guiding mantra that “fear is safer than love,” which is simply horrifying when you consider that this is a fourteen year-old who internalized it so heavily that she is ready to violently fight one of her best friends if they don’t behave how she demands. Here on The Fandomentals, we try to provide commentary not only about popular pieces of media, but also on fandom tendencies, as participating in fandoms is at times, a most mysterious endeavor. What’s Playing on the Fandomentals Network. Although if you make it say whoever wins the most out of 10 or sor rounds it starts to tip into Azulas favor. I would consider Katara on par with Azula btw. Every animal in the world vs humans (5 days of prep time for humans but they can't kill in it). I do know all about that razor’s edge between understanding motivations and excusing actions better than I like to admit. Kylie is a Managing Editor at The Fandomentals on a mission to slay all the tropes. Let’s start with Azula, because…chronology? - Battles - Comic Vine, That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime Verse. Who do you think is more worthy of those leather pants? When Zuko chose to rejoin the Fire Nation, lied to their father and gave him the credit for “killing” the Avatar because she suspected Aang might have survived her shot, which gave her leverage over her brother and protected herself from any negative consequences. She was an orphan, “taken in” by Suyin Beifong, at least in a mentor/mentee capacity. There's no huge upgrade in the comics. Draco Malfoy is a lil’ shit, but stick him in some hot pants and suddenly he’s adorbs.

This is complicated, because while Suyin claims that Kuvira was “like a daughter” to her, she also talks about “nourishing her talents” and seeing her “rise through the ranks,” which is. And yet…we have to get to her actions. There was actually a time where Azula was dangerously close to becoming leather pantsed in my analyses when I was attempting to figure out why she was also the target of incredibly misogynistic attack posts on the other side, until I received a moving, thoughtful piece that helped re-center my lens.

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